Newsletter 34 May 17 2003
TO THE NEW HUNLEY NEWSLETTER
special welcome to all the new subscribers. This newsletter
is published every two weeks so no one is bombarded with
mail. This issue
contains a mid-poll
follow-up of the results of the Sinking Theories Poll we
started last week, also an article on Fort Johnson described
as the "Key of Charleston" during the Civil War about the
Hunley's first sinking and the "Etiwan"
The First Confederate Flag
Confederate Submarine H L Hunley with plates removed.
As work was completed the submarine was lowered back into
its tank to reduce further corrosion..
Lt. George E. Dixon's legs are removed from the forward
section of the Confederate Submarine H. L. Hunley.
H. L. Hunley model
1/72 :Special Price:
The Hunley store now
has models. The kit was created from first hand observations and
measurements to create a truly accurate and magnificent
finished piece for display. Only a small amount of modeling
experience & a few tools are recommended to complete the kit.
Simple instructions included indicate what
tools are necessary. (Glue and paint are not included.) Scale
is 1/72. Length 11.50". Kit number #72-001.
FACTS AND HYPOTHESIS
The Second Confederate Battle
Last newsletter we asked everyone to vote on their favorite
or most logical and acceptable theory on the sinking of the
Hunley. The final result will be given in the next
newsletter, we have had a great response
Click to Vote your own Theory or to view others
Here are some examples of what we have received:
"I think the explosion blew a hole in the
"With the forward hatch found to be latched, but not
tightened, and the calcium formed in the air locked
compartment would suggest that Dixon was caught off guard do
to the result of the explosion, the resultant wave, and huge
void of water, the Hunley took on water due to the
combination of the heavy sea, the wave from the explosion,
and the resultant turbulence. It is possible that Hunley
took on an excessive amount of water, incapacitating some of
the crew, and not affording the bilge pumps to work
properly. When the Hunley rested on the floor of the ocean,
the pressure shut the hatch. After the years of laying
upright, and with the possibility of later rolling onto the
starboard side, the hatch may have been forced open a bit
due to the residual air bubble. The rudder may have been
weakened by the explosion, and with the tide motion, been
caught under the hull. Damage to the hull could have been by
a dragging anchor, or shrapnel from the Housatonic. Thank
you. Peter Joy."
"Concussion could have caused unconsciousness. Dixon out
longer than the rest of the crew, lesser sailor in charge.
Sailed out from shore by mistake, then Dixon regains
consciousness, believing they have been making for shore he
decides to check. Finds they are on the wrong side of the
Housatonic. They decide to rest and wait it out on bottom.
Having endured great stress they are at a reduced capacity
and would more susceptible to anoxia.!? "
"How does the combination of elements sound? Lt. Dixon
making a mistake, along with equipment failure, the
propeller being fouled and attempting to wait out the rescue
operations. Bill Snyder "
Friday, May 16, 2003.
Scientist working on the Confederate
Submarine H.L. Hunley announced that it will take up to
three more years of study to determine substantially the
cause of the sinking of the Hunley.
The final determination will be made by
the scientific combination of the forensics, the archaeology
and geology which includes sedimentation of the interior.
Officials are saying that they will be able to come up with
a theory with a high degree of certainty as to the last
minutes of the Hunley.
Last newsletter we discussed the basic nine theories of
sinking and readers have since added a few more. The
theories, in form of a survey that readers could vote on,
run from Dixon’s miscalculations to waiting it out and
running out of air. The survey which is still available on
www.thehunley.com will be completed by time the next
newsletter comes out on May 30th.
“Fort Johnson is the key of
THE HUNLEY AND THE
The Third Confederate Flag
“Fort Johnson is the key of Charleston”
JOHNSON - WAR IS OVER AND THE UNION FLAG IS AT HALF-MAST
Excerpt from Report of Commander Marchand, U.S. Navy,
commanding U.S.S. James Adger, proposing a method of attack
on the defenses of Charleston, S.C.
U. S. S. JAMES ADGER,
Off Charleston, May 19, 1862.
SIR: In a conversation I had the honor to hold with you this
morning, it is possible that I had not conveyed my ideas
with regard to the reduction of Charleston so as to be
understood, and hence I will repeat:
I deem that Fort Johnson is the key of Charleston. An army
movement toward that place, either across Stono River or
from Stono Inlet, will accomplish its reduction.
Should Fort Johnson be taken, the obstructions in the harbor
would prevent communication by water between Charleston and
Forts Sumter and Moultrie and the batteries on Sullivan s
and Morris islands.
Having at present, with the naval forces under my charge,
the virtual possession of Stono Inlet, from which a forward
movement of the army toward Fort Johnson can at any moment
be made, I have daily hopes of getting some of the gunboats
across the bar into Stono Inlet. Should that be
unsuccessful, the light-draft steamers you promised will
enable me to remove the obstructions in the Stono River a
sufficient distance beyond the marshy ground to permit the
army to cross that river from North Edisto, and possibly, by
an interior communication pointed out to-day by Mr. Boutelle
from Stono Inlet, another detachment of the army may be
landed on hard ground between the Stono River (where it is
surmised the main body of the army will cross that narrow
stream) and Fort Johnson.
Permit me again to repeat that Fort Johnson is the key of
Charleston and its defenses at the present time.
I am, sir, very respectfully, your obedient servant,
J. B. MARCHAND,
Flag-Officer S. F. DU PONT,
Commanding South Atlantic Blockading Squadron.
James Island played a major role in
the defense of Charleston and the saga of the Confederate
Submarine H L Hunley during the Civil War. With
approximately 4 ¼ nautical miles of Charleston Harbor
frontage the sparsely populated James Island was vital to
the defense and protection of the City of Charleston. As a
second line of defense against the Northern Aggression the
Confederate Batteries on the Island protected the City both
from land and sea attack. The Stono River on the west and
Southwest side and the harbor entrance and Ashley River on
the North and Northeast were vulnerable. The mouth of
Charleston harbor was primarily protected by two islands,
Sullivan’s Island with Fort Moultrie and its batteries to
the north and Battery Gregg, Wagner, and Star of the West at
Cummings Point at the tip of Morris Island to the south.
Further south down the coast was Folly Island which
separated James Island from the Atlantic Ocean. Directly
behind Battery Gregg close to the middle of the Harbor
entrance was Fort Sumter that took the blunt of all the
Federal attacks toward Charleston. Battery Simkins was in a
line of defense between Fort Johnson directly west of Fort
Sumter less than 1000 yards away. Hiding in the shadows of
Fort Sumter little over a nautical mile away was Fort
Johnson out of view of the Northern Blockading fleet and
Fort Johnson provided a reasonably
secure oasis from bombardment and spying operations of the
Yankee fleet patrolling the harbor entrance.
Four days after Union Major Robert Anderson’s secret
mission to move to Fort Sumter on December 26, 1860 and only
three days after the take over of Castle Pinckney and Fort
Moultrie by Confederate troops another fort had to be
considered. Fort Johnson on James Island abandoned by the
Union was calculated as too dilapidated and in need of
repair to be useful to the Federal troops. However, the
South Carolinians knew there was value to be had. For one,
Fort Johnson was a fuel dump of coal and wood, something the
Federal troops would desperately have needed on Fort Sumter.
Within three months, the South built and erected two mortar
batteries and an additional battery of three guns, one of
which was originally aimed at Fort Sumter. This east mortar
battery consisted of two guns, one of which was believed to
be the gun that fired the opening shot of the Civil War.
At 4:30 a.m. April 12, 1861, a signal shell exploded over
the parade ground in the center of the Fort Sumter. On Fort
Johnson, Lt. Stephen D. Lee issued the order allow the
firing of the first shot by Captain George S. James of South
Carolina. The 10-inch mortar conveyed flame, smoke and a
round shell when a lanyard was pulled. The lanyard launched
a fiery ball that arched across the harbor with its fuse
dragging a tail like a comet. When it exploded, it
illuminated the brick fort in the black of night while
cheers could be heard from the rooftops of many of the homes
along the Battery. Confederate guns from the surrounding
forts responded to the signal shot with shot and shell of
their own. The War of Rebellion had begun.
Over the next three years, Fort Johnson’s status was
re-enforced to include turning it into an entrenched camp of
substantial power with over 26 guns and mortars.
Fort Johnson at the end of the
Civil War and Today
August 1863 was an important month for
Fort Johnson. Duels between Federal ironclads and Ft.
Moultrie and Sumter were beginning to be a daily occurrence
now that parts of Morris Island were in Federal hands. We
know that on August 12, 1863 a Confederate submersible was
mounted on two railroad cars and transported from Mobile,
Alabama to downtown Charleston where it was off loaded at
the Calhoun Street Railroad station. Within the next couple
of weeks, while E.C. Singer was designing and building the
explosive devices to be used, the civilian owners and crew
were testing their new secret weapon around the inner
Horace L. Hunley was in Charleston on
August 21 and ordered Confederate Uniforms for his civilian
crew who were feeling the pressure of the increased bombing
of the forts at the harbor entrance. But practice was all
the civilian crew did.
On the night of August 21-22 at 1:30 AM
the citizens of Charleston were awakened by the tremendous
explosion of a 200 pound shell. Before daylight, 14 more
shells would land directly in the city. The intent was to
kill, maim and discourage the citizens of the city of
Charleston and force surrender.
The Union had constructed a marsh
battery off Bass Creek behind Morris Island upon which they
mounted a gun nicknamed the “Swamp Angel”, a huge 8 inch
Parrot which could throw a 200 lb shell the distance of 4
1/2 miles. The next day, August 23, 1863, one week before
the Confederate Submarine H L Hunley was secretly
moved to Fort Johnson, the “Swamp Angel” fired 21 more
shells into the City before bursting.
Order of Rear-Admiral Dahlgren, U. S. Navy, enjoining
vigilance against surprise from the enemy.
Off Morris Island, August 5, 1863.
It is rumored that the enemy have a ram near Fort Johnson
and have removed a line of buoys in the harbor. Whether the
suspicion be correct or not, it is proper to guard against
Therefore the utmost vigilance must be used to detect any
movement and the vessels kept ready for attack at the first
notice of the enemy's approach.
The advance monitor should be underway or ready to slip and
the picket boats feel well around so as to detect the least
J. A. DAHLGREN,
Rear-Admiral, Comdg. South Atlantic Blockading Squadron.
the escalated siege against Charleston and the lack of
aggressive measures by her civilian crew, the Confederate
Navy was ordered to take command of the Hunley and by
August 26 the South’s secret weapon was assigned a volunteer
naval crew. This new crew immediately started practice
diving and surfacing around the harbor earning it the title
of “The Porpoise”, when they were ordered to Fort Johnson to
prepare for a night attack against the Union blockading
was Saturday the 29th day of August 1863, the now
Confederate Submarine H. L. Hunley, formerly the top
secret privateer submersible, was docked at Fort Johnson.
Lieutenant John Payne, with the Confederate States Navy, was
commissioned as commander of the H. L. Hunley, after
General Beauregard took custody of her. Lt. Payne had
already recruited volunteers from the Confederate Rams, the
Chicora and the Palmetto State. Lt. Charles
Hasker was recruited that day to sit in for Charles Stanton
who had other duties on the Chicora. Lt. Hasker was
to take the second position behind Commander Payne. Another
four crewmen, Frank Doyle, John Kelly, Michael Cane, and
Nicholas Davis were volunteers from the Chicora;
Absolum Williams was on board from the Palmetto State.
The Number 8 crewman’s name is still unknown.
It was late afternoon and the entire
crew was on board and in position when Commander Payne was
climbing into the forward hatch as he took a last look
Confederate Steamer Etiwan was approaching to
The Hunley with its black paint, weighted down and
balanced, was ready for her first stealth mission. The lead
ballast forward and stern, iron blocks, and the detachable
keel added with the weight of eight men left only her
turrets showing. She was engineered to ride low in the water
with only the 150 pound hatch covers and the turrets showing
above sea level. Suddenly the wake from the Etiwan rocked
the Hunley knocking Lt. Payne off the boat. As the
Hunley healed over at a 60 degree angle, water started
gushing into the open hatches. The thirty-two year old, Lt.
Charles Hasker, the old man of the crew, had grown up on the
water and had been in the Navy half his life. He had already
survived the duel between the Monitor and the
Virginia at Hampton Roads. Hasker was in position below
when he felt the ship rock and saw the gushing water. He
heard the gasp of the six men behind him and realized this
was not a good thing. Instinct took over and he immediately
started climbing over the metal axel which connected the
fins, then through the waterfall, into the forward tower and
up when the forward hatch closed down on him like a crab
claw. Lt. Hasker was dragged the full 42 feet down to the
muddy bottom before he was able to break loose from the trap
and swim to the surface. During all of this the Unknown
Soldier was able to escape out of the open rear hatch before
it was slammed closed by the ocean. The other five crewmen
drowned in the metal coffin.
Lt. John Payne was swept away by the speeding currents
and later rescued by the
swearing he would never go near a submarine again. Lt.
Hasker after a number of years testified that the Hunley
sank for more than a few reasons, the wake from the
Etiwan in combination with
the hatches being open and assisted by Lt. Payne’s
clumsiness. He stated that as Payne was climbing in and
getting settled his foot pushed the joystick controlling the
diving fins putting the sub into an immediate dive mode.
The wake alone rocking the Hunley would not have sunk her
and Lt. Hasker was so glad to be alive he was not willing to
make issue of it. Hasker is quoted truthfully as saying, “I
was the only man that went to the bottom with the ‘Fish
Boat’ and came up to tell the tale.” It had taken the
Confederate military only one week to sink the Hunley
and Horace L. Hunley wanted his boat back. The Hunley
Submarine was raised by September 14, 1863 and towed
back to the railroad dock in the City where she originally
entered Charleston; the five trapped bodies had to be
surgically removed due to bloating, a gruesome task and a
smell to match. Horace applied for soap and brushes but
could not entirely remove the smell of death that would
haunt the submarine forever.
Because the Hunley was a top
secret mission the only item of news ran in the
Charleston Daily Courier on August 31, 1863:
"On Saturday last, while Lts. Payne and Hasker, of the C.S.
Navy, were experimenting with a boat in the harbor, she
parted from her moorings and became suddenly submerged,
carry down with her five seamen, who were
The boat and bodies had not been recovered up to a late hour
on Sunday. Four of the men belonged to the gunboat Chicora
and were named, Frank Doyle, John Kelly, Michael Cane, and
Nicholas Davis. The fifth man, whose name we did not learn,
was attached to the Palmetto State."
now know that the 5th crewman was Absolum Williams - the
only Afro-American crewman to die associated with the
Hunley. His name was never inscribed on the Hunley Memorial
Monument at South Battery, White Point Gardens at the end of
Meeting Street, Charleston, S.C.
Johnson earned its keep during the major action of July 3,
1864, four months after the final sinking of the
Confederate Submarine H. L. Hunley, when the Southern
troops defeated a Union advance from Morris Island. Fort
Johnson was evacuated along with the other Charleston
Forts during the night of February 17-18, 1865.
4) IN CASE YOU MISSED IT-REINTERMENT NEWS -NEW ANNOUNCEMENT
"Lt. George E. Dixon's
remains may go to
his last-known hometown,
Mobile, Ala., for a
APRIL17, 2004 IS THE
PROJECTED DATE FOR THE REINTERMENT OF THE LAST CREW FROM THE
CONFEDERATE SUBMARINE H.L. HUNLEY
The final crew of the Confederate Submarine H.L. Hunley will
be laid to rest in
Charleston's Magnolia Cemetery next April.
It will have taken 140 years to finally lay to rest the last
crew of the submarine. All eight crewmen will be interred
with military honors and with the dignity and honor they
Friends of the Hunley, Inc.
officials expect the funeral to have a major financial
Charleston as Civil War re-enactors, submarine veterans from
around the world and history
enthusiast from all parts will be scrambling to attend.
Charleston could be flooded with over 40,000 people vying
for hotel rooms, parking and souvenirs. As much as officials
will try to maintain a certain dignity to the event, things
are sure to get out of hand.
"The attraction is that it truly may be the last Confederate
said Warren Lasch, chairman of Friends of the Hunley.
Other Civil War graves may be uncovered from locations
country, Lasch said, but this may be the last time in the
history that victims killed in the war are laid to rest from
Hunley Officials are planning a Friday press conference to
announce the details of the funeral and the exact target
date. The burial will include a period march through
Charleston. That's what happened in 1999 and 2000 when the
remains of about 30 Civil War
soldiers, Marines and earlier Hunley sailors were buried.
Those remains, which were recovered from beneath The
football stadium, were carried through the city on
from The Battery to Magnolia Cemetery. Re-enactors and women
mourning dress marched with them while thousands lined East
Street to watch.
November of 2003 was the preliminary date to bury the crew,
but with only 4 of the 8 crews remains ready for burial the
date had to be delayed. The faces of 4 of the crewmen are
ready to be displayed.
The week of Feb. 17, 2004, the 140th anniversary of the
sub's final mission -- was ruled out because of the
Southeastern Wildlife Exposition.
The Hunley was last seen on the night of Feb. 17, 1864,
before it rammed an explosive charge into the hull of the
USS Housatonic. It was discovered almost five miles from
Fort Sumter by Dr. E. Lee Spence in 1970's and raised in
Two previous crews from the Hunley are already buried in
Cemetery, including Horace L. Hunley. The remains of
the final crew of the Confederate Submarine H. L. Hunley
are being kept in a morgue at the Warren Lasch conservation
lab in North Charleston.
The Post and Courier reports:
And, in unusually blunt language, a leading organizer of the
effort said that if anyone has a problem with the planned
"We have no apologies for who these people are," state Sen.
McConnell, R-Charleston, the chairman of the state Hunley
said at a news conference at Magnolia Cemetery. "If somebody
like it, that's tough.
"I would think that anybody with good taste would not engage
kind of disruption," he added.
As a warning to treasure hunters, no artifacts from the sub
buried with the remains, McConnell said, adding that they
covered by concrete after the interment to prevent
Organizers say the funeral will include a 4.5-mile march
Charleston from The Battery to the cemetery, with thousands
enactors taking part.
Efforts are under way to identify descendents of all eight
although organizers say details have been slow in coming.
"It may be that we don't know some of the families before we
to rest," McConnell said.
The funeral will begin with a one-hour ceremony at the
monument at White Point Garden that will honor the men of
and its victim, the Union blockade ship Housatonic.
Another effort is under way to have the crew lie in state
South Carolina Statehouse, and sub commander Lt. George E.
remains may go to his last-known hometown, Mobile, Ala., for
The Hunley was lost the night of Feb. 17, 1864, after it
explosive charge the Housatonic. It was discovered four
Sullivan's Island in late 1970 by Dr. E. Lee Spence and was
raised in August 2000. Two previous crews from the Hunley
that were lost during test missions around Charleston Harbor
already are buried in Magnolia Cemetery, including sub
benefactor Horace L. Hunley.
(Excerpts from the Post and Courier and
Charleston.Net with permission.)
From: DAWN R
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:47 AM
Subject: picture of the confederate transport Sumter
I was wondering if you can tell me where i can find a
little bit clearer image of the confederate transport ship
'' Sumter''? like the one in the article, my gggrandfather
was a member of the 23rd Georgia infantry that was on board
the Sumter when it sank. this is a long shot, but, i was
wondering also, if you know where, or if, any kind of
schematics of the Sumter still exist.
This is a link to the CSS SUMTER, I am also cross
copying Dr. Spence who discovered the ship in Charleston, He
may have access to a better picture. I am not 100% sure this
is the same " Sumter" . Hopefully we will hear from him
soon. PS. If you can't download this picture let me know and
I will send it separate.
George W. Penington
Subject: Re: picture of the confederate transport sumpter
To the best of my knowledge the picture you have for the
Sumter is not the steamer lost on Fort Reef. The Sumter I
found was a shallow draft steamer used in Charleston Harbor
as a troop and munitions transport. I haven't disturbed the
site in any way. All I have done is observe some brick
ballast, spikes and other items. I suspect she was largely
salvaged during or after the war.
The following references come from the entry for the
wreck in my book "Treasures of the Confederate Coast: The
Real Rhett Butler & Other Revelations," which is usually
available on eBay.
Charleston Daily Courier," (Charleston, SC), Volume 61,
#19559, September 1, 1863, p. 1, c. 2
"Charleston Mercury," (Charleston, SC), Volume 83, #11847,
September 1, 1863, p. 2, c. 1
"Charleston Mercury," (Charleston, SC), Volume 83, #11848,
September 2, 1863, p. 2, c. 1
"Charleston Mercury," (Charleston, SC), Volume 83, #11849,
September 3, 1863, p. 2, c. 1, 2
"Daily Morning News," (Savannah, GA), September 1, 1863, p.
2, c. 1 Times, (London, England), #24680, October 3, 1863,
p. 9, c. 1 History of the Confederate States Navy From its
Organization to the Surrender of its Last Vessel, by J.
Thomas Scharf, (New York, New York, 1887), p. 697 Official
Records of the Union and Confederate Armies in the War of
the Rebellion, (Washington, DC, 1890), Series 1, Volume 28,
Part 1, pp. 397, 398, 450, 689-712
Official Records of the Union and Confederate Navies in the
War of the Rebellion, (Washington, DC, 1899), Series 1,
Volume 9, pp. 229, 230 Official Records of the Union and
Confederate Navies in the War of the Rebellion, (Washington,
DC, 1902), Series 1, Volume 14, p. 755 Merchant Steam
Vessels of the United States 1790-1868, ("Lytle-Holdcamper
List"), edited by C. Bradford Mitchell, (Staten Island, NY,
1975), pp. 85, 91, 205
Lifeline of the Confederacy: Blockade Running During the
Civil War, by Stephen R. Wise, (University of South
Carolina, Columbia, SC, 1983), p. 570 Charleston’s Maritime
Heritage 1670-1865, by P.C. Coker III, (Coker Craft Press,
Charleston, SC, 1987), p. 230
Warships of the Civil War Navies, by Paul H. Silverstone,
(Naval Institute Press, Annapolis, MD, 1989), p. 241
Best wishes, Lee
E. Lee Spence
Thanks Lee, That was the only Sumter I could find, I
know that both sides of the war where terrible about giving
ships different names and then re-naming them constantly. I
hope the lady that was looking found out more.
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 7:00 PM
Subject: (no subject)
This is in
response to publishing my research paper on the Hunley. I'm
afraid I didn't get an A on the research paper, it was an
A+. This research paper has grown over the months and it is
bit more than 100 pages by now. My emphasis on the paper
has been more on the technical part of what made the Henley
tick, so to speak. I have come up with some interesting
theories of my own, needless to say I have updated the
research paper as I went along. If you are still interested
in publishing let me know and I'll send a sample of what I
have down on it.
Yes…that would be great and congratulations. Did you check
out the last newsletter about sinking theories.
[CSS H L HUNLEY] The Alabama, Cumberland and the Florida
at Lasch Lab?
The Post and Courier Wednesday May 7, 2003 reports in
their "Summer Guide" an article by Dora DeVera Hartsell -
Publications Coordinator that "Other sunken vessels being
stored and studied at the former Naval warehouse (The Warren
Lasch Center) include the Alabama, the Cumberland and the
Florida, Correia says." Kellen Correia is described as the
center spokeperson. I've been, I thought, all over that
building but I don't know where they are hiding those
ships. Any clues out there.
suggests, the news items is a badly-phrased reference to
artifacts from those vessels. IIRC the lab not long ago
took possession of one of the big guns recovered from
ALABAMA for conservation, and I'm sure there are materials
there from other sites (both ACW-related and otherwise).
There are very few nautical archaeology conservation labs
similarly equipped in the world, and (arguably) none
better. The Lasch facility should, if managed properly,
become a regional center for conservation, and will
hopefully have a long-term impact far beyond the HUNLEY
work being done there.
ETIWAN, ETWAN, ETOWAH, ETOWAN or HETIWAN, wooden hull side-wheel 132 ton steamer
built 1834 at Charleston, S.C., operated in Charleston Harbor throughout the Civil War as a transport
and cargo ship between the forts and city. Damaged by torpedo (mine) near Fort Johnson April 4, 1863
and was run ashore to prevent her sinking. Repaired and resumed transport duties. Five months later
ETIWAN was involved in the sinking at the wharf at Fort Johnson Confederate Submarine Torpedo Boat
H. L. HUNLEY on 29 August 1863. ETIWAN was run ashore again June 7, 1864 and shelled by Union
batteries on Morris Island. Found wrecked in Charleston Harbor At the close of the Civil War. She was
fitted for service to the Army Quartermaster Department engaged in clearing the harbor after the Civil War. April 1867
became merchant steamer ST. HELENA Institute of Nautical Archaeology
FROM THE GUEST BOOK
I found this article very interesting, I am a Civil
War Re-enactor with the 51st North Carolina, thanks for the
great information about the CSS Hunley.
Hope Mills, NC USA - Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 07:56:26
I DEY HEREOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LOME, TOGO - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 02:05:13 (PDT)
This reminds me of when Wasa (sunk 1628) was raised in
1961. Like Wasa, Hunley was a bad ship - but an amazing time
machine! I hope they will be able to conservate Hunley,
though conservation of iron is very difficult.
Lund, Sweden - Tuesday, May 13, 2003 at 14:53:39 (PDT)
This is an outstanding web site. I have just one
question. Are there any photos of the "Hunley" as she is
now. Not including the photo of her in the "cradle" that was
used to retrieve her from the bottom of Charleston Harbor?
Very Respectfully, Walter P. Weiss ET2(SS) USN USS Houston
Bremerton, WA USA - Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 20:08:22 (PDT)
Dr.MUGU IS BACK FOR ACTION.
Dr.MUGU WHITE <MUGU@HOTMAIL.COM>
PARIS, CL USA - Friday, May 09, 2003 at 11:55:11 (PDT)
I LOVE THIS PAGE.
ABA NAIJA, ABA NAIJA - Friday, May 09, 2003 at 11:53:09
Great site! I wonder if the crew or people involved
had any idea how much of a step forward they were taking.
Freeport, IL USA - Friday, May 09, 2003 at 01:52:39 (PDT)
Thank you for the information. I am looking forward to
more when available
Charleston, S.C. USA - Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 09:21:35
Thanks to PBS TV I became aware of the HUNLEY Fact is
stranger than fiction and this mystery certainly appeals to
senses. re. theory...when in reverse would the diving planes
be at reversed angle in order to keep submerged, could a
shockwave from the explosion "push" the vessel bow up
driving aft down faster than expected bending the rudder
under the boat as it contacted bottom??
kitchener, on can - Thursday, May 08, 2003 at 09:06:22 (PDT)
Had the privilege of being in Charleston on the day
that the Hunley was raised. It was a very emotional day, and
we were happy to be apart of this unique day in history.
Later that day we visited the graves of the previous Hunley
crews to pay our respects. We are going return to Charleston
this summer 03 and visit the conservation lab. The Hunley
story has now become part of our history and lives. Keep up
the good work
England - Monday, May 05, 2003 at 07:27:26 (PDT)
looking for updates on the hunley have been following
the progress. keep up the good work
myrtle beach, sc USA - Friday, May 02, 2003 at 19:17:23
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Charleston, SC USA - Thursday, May 01, 2003 at 06:08:47
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