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APRIL 18, 2003
1) Welcome to the new Hunley
Newsletter
1) WELCOME TO THE NEW HUNLEY NEWSLETTER A special welcome to all the new subscribers. This newsletter is published every two weeks so no one is bombarded with mail. This issue is about some submarine history starting back with the "Turtle". The Civil War was a tough time as all wars are and I just want to thank our troops in IRAQ for what they do to allows us our freedom. I have the freedom to write this newsletter and we all have the freedom to read it. so "THANK YOU TROOPS AND GET ON HOME" Comments and feedback are always welcome.
This
weeks special at The Hunley store Free Hunley Pin with any order over $10.00 offer ends May 1 2003
2) THE FIRST SUBMARINE RACE of THE CIVIL WAR
THE FIRST SUBMARINE RACE of THE CIVIL WAR At the outset of the Civil War, the Union Navy and the Southern Confederacy embarked on somewhat comparable courses of submersible craft development which, resulted in a race to produce a successful submersible weapon. Americans, as we were before the war, were involved in the development of undersea vessels.
The Civil War and particularly the South needed a manned submersible in combat and to accomplish this they needed three design factors to work.: 1) a
workable and buildable design and a construction method. The vitals for underwater survival included the design and construction of an air supply system including a possible storage method and certainly replenishment, a ballast method and balance arrangement with a regulator, design for steering and depth control, and instruments for navigation and depth gauging. (A self-powered propulsion system capable of operation while running submerged was a challenge that had not been completed. ) Bushnell had designed into his vessel the new innovation of hand powered (Manual power was the primary means of propulsion for the vessels built before and during the war) "oar[s]...based upon the principle of the screw" There were three types of tactical delivery of an explosive weapon: 1) A time-delay explosive charge (a limpet mine) carried on the outside of the boat and manually attached to the hull of the enemy vessel ( Bushnell's Turtle;) 2) The towing of a contact torpedo in the wake of the torpedo craft in which the idea was to detonate the charge by diving beneath the target in such a way that the charge would collide with the target; and 3) The bow-mounted spar torpedo concept originated by Fulton.
McClintock's series of boats would utilize all tthe above
methods at various stages to develop three classes of ships.
While the Union was bogging down in typical Naval bureaucratic hindrances, the Confederates, not fully organized and desperate, benefited from private development by licensing and authorizing privateers. James McClintock and Baxter Watson's New Orleans-built Pioneer was considered an experimental prototype of the H.L. Hunley. NOTE: The Pioneer was the only submersible provided with a letter of marque and reprisal by the Confederate States. At least four Confederate boats, American Diver, H.L. Hunley, St. Patrick, and the unnamed vessel or vessels constructed at the Tredegar Iron Works, were either built at government facilities or with the assistance of military personnel. McClintock's Hunley and John P. Halligan's St. Patrick, were seized as a result of the military's disenchantment and impatience with their civilian operators. The vessels built at Tredegar were the only boats constructed under a full-fledged Confederate Navy Department building program, but did not prove successful. Submersible ship construction was initiated in four areas: A) Tredegar Iron Works in Richmond, Virginia, B) The Leeds Foundry in New Orleans, Louisiana C) The Park & Lyons Machine Shops in Mobile, Alabama D) The Confederate naval facilities at Selma, Alabama . "...thoroughly impressed with the intelligence of Mr. McClintock, and with his knowledge of all points chemical and mechanical connected with torpedoes and submarine vessels...He is, I believe, entirely self-taught, and was much employed by the Confederates on torpedo work, on which he has much practical information which he seems ready to communicate. He hates his countrymen, Americans, and hopes to some day be a British subject ("Report on a submarine boat invented by Mr. McClintock of Mobile, U.S. of America," PRO, Adm. Series 1/6236, File 39455)."
McClintock admitted that his boats suffered from three basic problems: the lack of a self-propelling motive power, inaccurate compass readings, and an inability to measure the horizontal movement while running submerged. "...One difficulty which Mr. McClintock very frankly pointed out was the uncertain action of the compass in such a vessel...He also pointed out another requirement which he had not succeeded in applying - rather from want of means than from want of skill, or from any great difficulty in the requirement [illegible]. He states that when under weigh beneath the surface, it is quite impossible to ascertain whether the vessel is progressing as there are no passing objects by which to recognize the fact of motion; on several occasions when experimenting with his boat they continued working the crank while all the time the boat was hard and fast in the mud ("Report on a submarine boat invented by Mr. McClintock of Mobile, U.S. of America," PRO, Adm. Series 1/6236, File 39455).
Enclosed with their intelligence summary were copies of McClintock's letters of endorsement from former Confederate officers Matthew F. Maury, James E. Slaughter, J.D. Johnstone, Raphael Semmes, and P. Murphy. But perhaps the most valuable piece of historical evidence is the four page narrative, written in McClintock's own hand, describing the construction of the three boats he designed and saw built during the war.
Major General Maury, CSA, commanding troops at Mobile, wired Secretary of War Seddon: "Farragut has gone North. The Hartford and other heavy vessels have disappeared from down bay." Maury also commented on John P. Halligan, builder of torpedo boat Saint Patrick.' "Halligan, recently appointed lieutenant, has not yet used his torpedo boat. I do not believe he ever will. His boat is reported a most valuable invention." Next day, Maury wrote Commodore Farrand, commanding naval forces at Mobile: "Every opportunity and facility having been afforded Mr. Halligan to enable him to use his boat against the enemy, and he evidently not being a proper man to conduct such an enterprise, please order a suitable officer of your command to take charge of the Saint Patrick at once and attack without unnecessary delay." In January 1865 Saint Patrick was transferred to Maury's authority and an energetic young naval officer, Lieutenant John T. Walker, put in command.
ST. PATRICK TB: l. 30'; cpl. 6; a. 1 torpedo
ST. PATRICK, a submersible torpedo boat which could "be sunk and raised as desired " was built privately at Mobile, Ala., by John P. Halligan in 1864. She was transferred to the Confederate States Army on January 24th 1865, but placed under the command of Lt. J. T. Walker, CSN. An hour after midnight on January 28 this little vessel struck the Federal ship OCTORARA abaft her wheelhouse with a torpedo which misfired and did no damage. When the Federals returned artillery and musket fire ST. PATRICK escaped to the protection of the Confederate batteries at Mobile. Major General Maury, CSA, commanding troops at Mobile, wired Secretary of War Seddon: "Farragut has gone North. The Hartford and other heavy vessels have disappeared from down bay." Maury also commented on John P. Halligan, builder of torpedo boat Saint Patrick: " Halligan, recently appointed lieutenant, has not yet used his torpedo boat. I do not believe he ever will. His boat is reported a most valuable invention." Next day, Maury wrote Commodore Farrand, commanding naval forces at Mobile: "Every opportunity and facility having been afforded Mr. Halligan to enable him to use his boat against the enemy, and he evidently not being a proper man to conduct such an enterprise, please order a suitable officer of your command to take charge of the Saint Patrick at once and attack without unnecessary delay." In January 1865 Saint Patrick was transferred to Maury's authority and an energetic young naval officer, Lieutenant John T. Walker, put in command. Saint Patrick (Confederate torpedo boat, 1864-1865) Saint Patrick, a small semi-submersible torpedo boat, was privately built at Selma, Alabama, in 1864. Operating under the Confederate Army's control, but with a C.S. Navy commanding officer, she attacked USS Octorara in Mobile Bay on 28 January 1865. However, her torpedo misfired, and the Union ship was not damaged. St. Patrick was able to escape the return fire and return to Mobile.
As the war entered its fourth year, Halligan’s Saint Patrick joined the battle, making an unsuccessful attack against the U.S.S. Octorora in Mobile Bay. The Saint Patrick ended the war running supplies under the blockading squadron to the outlying forts ringing the Bay. In the final act of the Civil War, Union naval forces were sent up the Red River to Shreveport to demand the surrender of the C.S.S. Missouri and a small CSN squadron stationed there. The Confederate squadron included four boats of the Singer Submarine Corps, of which the Union ships had been warned. By the time the Yankee sailors arrived, however, the submarines had all been scuttled. A Gallery of Civil War
Submarines
Excerpts borrowed from: Submarines in the Civil War - NOTES ABOUT THE TURTLE By Chuck Veit 3) IN CASE YOU MISSED IT: MIDSHIPMEN RECREATE THE "TURTLE" Midshipman recreate the "Turtle" Thu 2/6/2003 OLD SAYBROOK (AP)- With the ceremonial snap of a chalk
line, a high school project to build a working replica
of the country's first submarine is under way.
In the very town where the underwater warship was
constructed and launched 226 years ago, a crowd of
television people, school officials, historians and a
direct descendant of the builder looked on as two Midshipmen, Staff Re-Create Turtle Submersible By Judy Campbell, U.S. Naval Academy Public Affairs ANNAPOLIS, Md. (NNS) -- The peach-shaped, wooden submersible slipped beneath
the waves of Snug Harbor, Duxbury, Mass., on a cold January morning.
From:
jdzullo I was watching the Antique Roadshow on channel 8 on sat April 5 and they had a few things about H.L. Hunley. And it had a book on it It was either called The Captain And The Hunley or The Captain And The Submarine by Ruth Duncan. I was wanting to find out about it. They said it was extremely rare. So I was wondering if there would be anyway to find it? Thank You, Mrs Enid Zullo
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Saturday, April 05, 2003 12:06 PM Hello there and thanks for writing. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. While I was doing research for the next newsletter, I came across this information and thought I would forward it in case you missed it. In "The Captain and Submarine CSS H. L. Hunley" by Ruth H. Duncan, 1965, there is an extensive list of H. L. Hunley's ancestors. *********
http://www.my-ged.com/db/page/jimwilks/4081 George W. Penington www.thehunley.com
"The Captain and submarine CSS H. L. Hunley"Title: The Captain
and submarine CSS H. L. Hunley. Author:
Duncan, Ruth Henley. Published: Memphis, Author, c1965. Edition: 1st.
ed., manufactured by S. C. Toof & Co. ************************
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Message----- Dear Sir, Has the Hunley been recovered yet ? If not are there any plans to raise her soon? I saw the reproduction outside the museum in Charleston a few year back , very impressed, what brave men they were ! Best wishes, Ron Oh Absolutely….The whole site www.thehunley.com is about the recovery and restoration efforts underway. Take your time and browse around. Also you may want to sign up for the newsletter to stay up to date. Thanks for your interest and stay in touch. George W. Penington HEW!!...Had to be kind about that one...LOL
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Message----- Dear Sir or Mam, My name is Jesse E Dixon, and I would like to find out as much info about Lt. Dixon as I can. I have been looking into my family past for three years now and have found out that my fathers side has strong ties to the south. I will not go as far as to say that I'm related to Lt.Dixon, but my interest has been peaked. If you can please help me in any way that would be great. You can email me At: parthet@yahoo.com Thanks So Much, Jesse Dixon Hello Jesse….sorry it took so long to get back to you. I need to go through the guest books because there was some other Dixons that signed in. If you like I can post this letter in the bi-monthly newsletter and see what kind of response we get. You may also want to write Mark Ragan [ markragan@yahoo.com ] Good luck…let me know what you find out and stay in touch. George W. Penington www.thehunley.com PS: If you get time look through some of the back issues of the guest book, there were some Hunley's and Dixon's that signed up. Ya'll may be the last surviving owners of the Confederate Submarine Hunley and can claim ownership.
CommentsIt is a great thing that people take such great interest in it's history. I'm glad I found this web site. Remember, not to know one's history is to remain a child. CW4 M. Suggs - Kuwait
Commentscool
Commentswhen did the hunley wreck or who was in it you need more information on the submarine!
CommentsHi, I'm so glad I've found your site. Ever since I've heard about the Hunley sub., I've always wondered about Horace's family. Is there anything written about his family??? My name is Helen (KYER) Fest and my Grandmother, Dora Frances (Hunley) Kyer was d.o. Silas Hunley who mar. in 1896 in Monroe Co., W.Va., to Isaella Catherine Fulknier. Silas was s.o. Valentine Hunley who mar. 1835 in Virginia to Mary Merritt. If there's any cousins out there, I'd love hearing from you. HKFEST@prodigy.net
Commentsthis site stinks
CommentsThank you for creating this website and adding my e-mail address to your newsletter subscriber list. I am looking forward to receiving your newsletter in the future. I long for the day when the confederate submarine H. L. Hunley is appropriately displayed and becomes the centerpiece attraction for all who visit Charleston, SC. Truly, the ultimate sacrifice given by all who served their country in the Hunley deserve to be reverently remembered. Indeed, one of America's remarkable generations.
CommentsI saw the reproduction Hunley outside the museum in Charleston a few years ago , just had my interest rekindled by a friend who lent me the video of the film . I can not imagine the bravery of men undertaking such a mission for their country , such a pity they paid the ultimate price. Let's hope they may be buried with full honors some day.
CommentsI just saw the National Geographic TV show about the Hunley. It was very interesting! Wanted to find out more about what happened when you opened the submarine and what you found inside. Is there a book or DVD on this subject for sale?? Thank you for all of your efforts and for bringing us all a piece of history!!!!
CommentsBEEN FOLLOWING THIS SUB STORY AND NOW i KNOW WHERE i WILL SPEND MY VACATION....WONDERFUL SITE
CommentsI'm just glad I found this great site i read it all i have to do a large report on the CSS H.L. Hunley and this site became my best hit. American by birth southern by the grace of god.--NS
CommentsHi I first heard about the Hunley from the Clive Cussler book, and then saw the recovery on Nat. Geo. TV. I wanted to find out more and found your web site. Great job. I may buy the model next! Bob Schroth Twin Peaks CA Is to provide specialized information to those who are interested in the recovery efforts and history of the Confederate Submarine H L Hunley. It is available free to anyone who might benefit from the information it contains, for example, students and history buffs. Our mailing list will always be kept private and will never be sold. Feel free to forward this newsletter to any friends or associates
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