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DECEMBER 2, 2003

ISSUE  #46
 


1)  WELCOME TO THE HUNLEY NEWSLETTER >
2)  PHOTOGRAPHY >
3)  FINAL ARTIFACTS FOUND ON THE HUNLEY >
4) 
Appeal court to rehear case of Confederate Flag Stickers >
5)  FROM THE GUEST BOOK
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6)  E-MAIL 
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7)  OUR PURPOSE AND GOALS
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1) WELCOME TO THE NEW HUNLEY NEWSLETTER

A special welcome to all the new subscribers. This newsletter is published every two weeks so no one is bombarded with mail.  This issue contains an article about the final artifacts found on the Hunley and some pictures of past finds.   The Confederate flag stickers case is a Dixon and is in Charleston.  The guest book and e-mails are always interesting.

 

WELCOME FROM THE HUNLEY STORE.COM

 

New at the Hunley store in time for Christmas

Chapman's painting Framed Special Price: 199.99 plus  S&H  ( Product # HL-1000F)  
Print of Conrad Wise Chapman's painting of the Confederate Submarine  Hunley. The Hunley print is framed in1 1/2 inch mahogany molding and has a double matting in sand and tampico brown. The total size of the print and frame is 22'' x26 3/4''.

 www.hunleystore.com  

2) PHOTOGRAPHY

Photography:

 

OLD Post Card Views of Magnolia Cemetery, Charleston, S.C. Where the LAST HUNLEY CREW WILL BE BURIED

THE CONFEDERATE MONUMENT AT MAGNOLIA
THE HUNLEY CREW PROCESSION WILL PASS BY THESE FELLOW SOLDIERS ON APRIL 17, 2004

 3) INTERIOR CLEARED - LAST ARTIFACTS FOUND ON SUB



It was announced last week that all the Charleston pluff mud and sediments have been cleared out of the hull of the Confederate States Submarine H L Hunley including the forward and rear ballast tanks and over 3,000 valuable artifacts. The submarine was raised over three years ago after it was relocated based on the original discovery in 1970 by E. Lee Spence.

With the interior now cleared, scientist will start on the next phase of excavation which includes the mapping of the walls of the hull, x-raying the interior workings and removing the mechanics that made this ship a sub. It is the hope of technicians and scientist that the final clues will be discovered leading to the answer of what happened in the final moments of this history making battle between the Hunley and the USS Housatonic.

Handling the forensics much like a crime scene investigation, Hunley Project manager Dr. Robert Neyland says the final answer will not be known until all the data is analyzed and a verdict is rendered which may take years.

The best sinking theories to date always include a combination of factors mainly command errors and mechanical and logistical failures according to George W. Penington, Editor of the Hunley.com Newsletter.

"A lot of things don't come together until you start writing up all  the evidence," Neyland said, adding that there "is no smoking gun."

Even though all the mud and sediment has been removed from the sub there is still a substantial thickness of concretion left covering the exterior and interior walls and mechanics. No decision has been made about how to deal with this thick concretion at this point, so x-rays and lasers will be used to analyze what can not be seen with the naked eye.

Although there appears to be no “smoking gun” at this point, being able to analyze the mechanical workings including the cranking mechanism and steering devices may eventually substantiate theories based on mechanical failure.

Because analyst know that there was a substantial amount of air left in the crew section of the interior compartments, a critical hull breach is not likely to be found that would date back to the original sinking on February 17, 1864. The several large holes or gashes found in
the sub appear to be from a later time after the sinking with a theory that they were a
 result of anchors being dragged over the sub many years later. The Hunley was found along the edge of the primary shipping lane in an area frequented by fishermen and shrimp boats.

The forward hatch was very slightly open but remained sealed but not fastened. There was an unlikely theory that said it may be because an anchor snagged it and forced it ajar, but more likely It was possible that Commander George E. Dixon may have opened it intentionally in a futile last attempt to escape.
 
 A few surprise announcements this month were released by the Hunley Commission about the last few artifacts found on the sub. 

The wooden cask found in the forward ballast tank was not the long lost chamber pot but instead was a repair kit for plugging leaks and included a caulking kit. In the sediment nearby was a flat iron like chisel often used to pound caulking into leaking seams. They also have found more items inside the central crew compartment of the sub, including a wrench, a hammer and three bolts. The wrench needed to unbolt the keel ballast weights was finally discovered along with the hammer and a coil of rope. Tools no able-bodied seaman would sail without.

A long time theory about moving ballast water from the bow ballast tank to the stern ballast tank was finally confirmed by the discovery of a pipe under the crew area along the bottom of the ship.  Ballast water could be moved from the front tank to the stern tank or the reverse to trim the ship level.  Outside water could be pumped in individually to lower to ship below the surface leaving less of the turrets exposed. The diving planes were used in conjunction with forward motion to force the sub to dive but a delicate balance was needed to keep her from popping back up to the surface.  Of course the more water inside the ship meant less room for breathing air.

Archaeologists were able to get access to the ballast tanks by removing outside hull panels which also allowed the scientist to view and exam several large gashes found in the hull.

Neyland said. "we have to look for more subtle influences as to the reason for the sinking,"
 
The facts remain that all eight crewmen died closely to their duty positions in the sub.
Dixon was found in the front turret area, the command area where the compass, steering, dive planes, depth gauge were all located, and seven man crew were behind him at rowing stations on a bench that ran along the Hunley's propeller crank. The number 8 man was second in command at the rear turret and was responsible for pumping the rear ballast tank.
 
In another surprise announcement, Dr. Neyland stated that the majority of the subs inner workings that have not already been removed will be taken out and individually treated and conserved for display at a later date.  This includes the crew bench, the pumps, depth gauge and the crankshaft and gears along with the ballast bars found in the tanks.

Rip in ballast tank Pencil Air box was removed
 
Shoe belonging to crewman Hunley propeller Button found

Pictures provided by the CSS H L HUNLEY CLUB AND Friends of the Hunley, Inc.


MORE PICTURES ON PAGE 2 >>>>


 

4)  Appeal court to rehear case of Confederate Flag Stickers > 

WAS THIS MAN RELATED TO THE HUNLEY SUB COMMANDER LT. GEORGE E. DIXON

 12-2-03

The former Coburg Dairy employee who was fired three years ago for refusing to remove Confederate flag stickers from his tool box gets his case reheard today. 

Matthew Dixon’s case goes before the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Va., early this morning. 

Dixon’s lawyer, Sam Howell of Charleston, said his goal is to persuade the full federal panel that Dixon’s case belongs in a South Carolina state court, where he would argue it is a criminal violation to fire someone for expressing their political beliefs. 

Dixon’s legal fight surfaced when he was fired from his job at Coburg’s North Charleston office.  The Summerville man refused to remove two Confederate Flag emblems from his toolbox after a black co-worker complained.  The dairy responded by saying the stickers violated its policy against workplace harassment. 

Dixon sued, claiming the company violated his First Amendment rights and state employment laws.  He pursued the case in state court, but Coburg officials successfully directed the case into federal court where they said the issue wasn’t so much about worker speech as it was Coburg’s right to control the atmosphere in its shop.  In Nay, a three-judge panel from the 4th Circuit upheld Coburg’s position.  But that decision was vacated in September when a rehearing was ordered by the court. 

A ruling on the case is expected to take several months. 

Reprinted with permission from the Post and Courier and Charleston.net 

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5) FROM THE GUEST BOOK
 


I am a bonafide history buff, and I am very much pleased to see a part of Naval history preserved for all to see and appreciate! Especially since my military service was in the U.S.Navy & Coast Guard
Kenneth Uffelman <kuffelman@earthlink.net>
Fresno, Ca USA - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 05:55:00 (PST)


419lome
419 <419.com>
419, 419 USA - Monday, December 01, 2003 at 01:24:50 (PST)


Thanks for preserving our history.
Wayne Douglas <waynedouglas42@aol.com>
Ooltewah,, TN USA - Sunday, November 30, 2003 at 22:32:12 (PST)


Looking forward to April 2004! I think that these great "Confederate sailors" should be allowed to be honored by having them in Columbia at the State House...they deserve it.
Virginia Morton <gmorton@shtc.net>
Chesterfield, SC USA - Saturday, November 29, 2003 at 19:25:36 (PST)


I visited the Hunley in 2002, and decided to change my major to history. I plan to be a civil war historian as well as prof. I have also done researcha and found that my ggggrandfather James W. Bell fought for the C.S. in the tn. 43rd infantry. So i Joined the United Daughters of the Confederacy last week!!!! Your work is greatly appreciated!!
chastity potter <alohatiki26@aol.com>
Maryville, tn USA - Friday, November 28, 2003 at 23:36:04 (PST)


My son was a Navy Submarine Man Uss Woodrow Wilson
Roxie Portis O'Neal <roxieoneal@wmconnect.com>
Oak Island, NC USA - Friday, November 28, 2003 at 18:26:04 (PST)


this is a cool website
dwayne w. horton <dunderhead1981@yahoo.com>
Quinlan, tx USA - Friday, November 28, 2003 at 16:50:33 (PST)


May they all sleep the eternal rest and rise again on judgement day.I pray they had accepted JESUS CHRIST as their SAVIOR.AMEN!!
RICHARD JAMES <rmjcengr@tds.net>
LEWISPORT, KY. USA - Thursday, November 27, 2003 at 14:13:35 (PST)


first of all to to all who died on the hunley (all three crews) god bless you and to you all that say they are traitors you are well cant even find an appropriate word to describe you sufficeth to say that could not be farther from the truth. i would give anything to be there for the burial and honor those men. i am northern born but southern by heart always have been. keep up the good work. crew one: lt john payne (survived) lt charles hasker (survived) frank doyle john kelly absolum williams nicholas davis michael cane unknown* crew two: horace lawson hunley thomas w. park robert brockbank joseph patterson charles sprague henry beard john marshall charles Mchugh crew three: lt george e. dixon james wicks arnold becker fred collins c. simpkins joseph ridgeway c. f. carlson unknown* god bless you all for your bravery.
john <rockhawler64@aol.com>
merced, ca USA - Wednesday, November 26, 2003 at 20:52:31 (PST)


BRAVE MEN who dared to boldly challange a foe which had superior advantages. The crew of the Hunley deserves honor on the basis of backing their belief in their chosen country of The Confederate States; with their lives. I have followed the Hunley story with great interest and hope to visit the preservation site when the chance occurs.
Howard C. Ladd <deucy@charter.net>
Laurens, S.C. USA - Monday, November 24, 2003 at 17:47:38 (PST)


God Bless them, each and everyone!
D B COOPER <littlebit621@yahoo.com>
St. Augustine, Fl USA - Monday, November 24, 2003 at 08:46:41 (PST)


Brave men true hero's. Keep up the good work
lester <lester_buckman>
New Zealand - Saturday, November 22, 2003 at 13:34:58 (PST)


It is so cool that those 8 sailors finally make it home to the south that died for.
Michael S. Heinen <Mnpheinen@aol.com>
Jacksonville, Fla` USA - Friday, November 21, 2003 at 21:40:18 (PST)


Help us ,we had a fellow say the ceremony had been canceled due to NAACP protests. We have been planning to attend and would like to know if this is true or simply rumor.
Jamie Stroud <smargellis@portbridge.com>
Deep Run, NC USA - Friday, November 21, 2003 at 08:07:19 (PST)


these men are true heros,their legacy will live forever.
darrell king <kingracers5@aol.com>
moraine, oh USA - Thursday, November 20, 2003 at 18:58:39 (PST)


Unfortunately, I won't be able to be at the ceremony, but I am assuming it will be filmed; can someone let me know when a DVD will be available for purchase? I saw the reproduction in Charleston and bought two books at the shop and got hooked on the Hunley right away. My Great-Great-Great grandPa was in the 21st Mississippi Infantry, but God bless those crazy squids! (sailors).
Ralph DeMattia <elskootero@hotmail.com>
Fayetteville, PA USA - Thursday, November 20, 2003 at 07:25:36 (PST)


I cant view your site on my SonyEricson P800 mobile phone. Seems there is a bug with styles or an GPRS connection problem.
Sylvia-Saint <Sylvia-Saint>
Moscow, USA - Wednesday, November 19, 2003 at 19:58:12 (PST)


THIS IS GREAT SITE. MUGU DEY HEREO, WAO I DON WKA HEREO HANDS OFF, NICE SITE.
NGBADA ADE <MUGU419@YAHOO.COM>
N.Y, ABA USA - Wednesday, November 19, 2003 at 06:28:07 (PST)


I am a member of the 28th Alabama Infantry, CSA. Our group hopes to march during the funeral procession in 2004. To the men of the CS Hunley, GOD BLESS EACH OF YOU AND WELCOME HOME! You are all heroes.
Eric L. Cleveland <eric.cleveland@gknwa.com>
Millbrook, AL USA - Monday, November 17, 2003 at 11:02:37 (PST)


Huntley-Hunley we have always felt it to be a close spelling of the same name. We are 8th generation immigrants and are very proud of the C.S.A. Hunley and the great job and loving care going into her. Bravo to you all!
Thomas A. Huntley <thuntley4@carolina.rr.com>
Monroe, NC USA - Sunday, November 16, 2003 at 15:38:05 (PST)


Being a student of the lost cause for more than 15 years,Icoud make only one trip to the U.S.so far in my life.Iwas in Vicksburg allmost for a week----next time i shall go to Charleston! thank you.
H.J.Horisberger <liliane.klingler@bluewin.ch>
Rüti, ZH Switzerland - Saturday, November 15, 2003 at 23:51:14 (PST)


We have a rich history, lets keep it alive!
John Forbey <jgfor@midmaine.com>
Lincoln, Me USA - Saturday, November 15, 2003 at 10:56:06 (PST)


my parents Dickson and Darlene have a huge painting of the hunley hanging in their living room-family rumor is that this is relation to us
kelley hunley <kelleyhunley@yahoo.com>
shelburn, in USA - Saturday, November 15, 2003 at 07:50:00 (PST)


my parents have a huge painting of the c.s.s hunley in their living room-family rumor is that this is relation to us
kelley hunley <kelleyhunley>
shelburn, in USA - Saturday, November 15, 2003 at 07:42:42 (PST)


my husband is active duty in the army, so we've been away from home for awhile. I have been following the story of the Hunley, since the beginning. Every time we do make it home, we're never able to the see the Hunley on the old Naval base. This April, I do plan though to make the trip home (from Germany) to be there when they finally bury the crew on April 17th.
Heather Owens <hmo25@aol.com>
GooseCreek, sc USA - Saturday, November 15, 2003 at 04:49:18 (PST)


I am a truck driver & I pick up lumber from the old naval base. I go by where the Hunley is stored But i never have got to see it. I hope to see it someday. Keep up the good work and thanks for keeping our History alive. Johnny
Johnny Seigler <seiglerj@pbtcomm.net>
Batesburg,, S.C. USA - Friday, November 14, 2003 at 18:34:25 (PST)


6)  E-MAIL >

REGARDING LAST ISSUE ARTICLE ABOUT LANTERNS

Monday, November 17, 2003 8:04 PM

Hi George,

I have been following the Boat Signal Lanterns on ebay for the past two or
so years.  There appears to have been several different manufacturers
through the years, although I have not had success in finding information on
any manufacturers, or history of the design. 

I have seen two lenses, one is a solid "fish-eye" lens, and a "bulls-eye",
with concentric circles, apparently to focus the light beam (which I feel is
a newer design).  The pictures I've seen show the fish-eye lenses to be not
as clear a glass at the bulls-eye. 

Some possibly used a candle, or maybe a candle was substituted if the whale
oil lamp didn't work.  It appears some were made of tin, others of brass.
Your article is the first reference I've seen to one having the red and blue
filters.  The housings seem to have been made in various sizes, also.

Steve Smith
Shreveport

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover."  Mark Twain
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George,

In late September, I wrote this comment in an email message to you:
"On page 248 of Hicks' book, there was the remark made by Ms. McLean that
marks on the Hunley could have been made by the Canandaigua.  If you knew
whether the propeller was a right or left one and the most likely direction
from which that boat approached the Housatonic, then we might know in which
direction the Hunley moved upon impact (if there was one)."

I want to clarify what I meant by 'right or left' propeller on the
Canandaigua.  In my field of work, what we call a right fan or propeller is
one which rotates clockwise when viewed downstream of the fan.  Similarly,
for left as counterclockwise.  I did not mean starboard or port as on boats. 
Maybe this could help with clarification too of the marks on the Hunley. 
With diagrams of those marks, lines of travel of the Canandaigua, and
knowledge of the right-ness or left-ness of the (single?) propeller, it might
be possible to determine whether or not those marks were made by the
Canandaigua on the Hunley.

Lastly, please keep at the great work with the Hunley, a proud symbol for all
Americans.

Paul Beebe
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The Hunley propeller is a right fan as shown in the picture above and the Hunley approached the Housatonic heading southwesterly ramming the starboard side of the Housatonic.
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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:35 PM
Subject: Hunley Grappling Hook

 Civil War-era device may have been used to search for sub or used as
 ANCHOR?
 Thursday, August 22, 2002

 Link:  http://www.thehunley.com/Engineering/Hunley%20Anchor.htm

 I realize you are the webmaster, but would you mind passing this on to
 the folks who work on the historical side of the house?  I think I may
 have found some information that would give you a lead as to the source
 of this grappling hook.

 My name is Tom DuSold and I am a senior/history major at Penn State
 University working as a research assistant on a historical newspaper
 project for the Pennsylvania Center for the Book.  The greater part of
 my day is spent reading newspapers from the 19th century, and while
 doing this I ran across an article from the "Shenandoah Herald", a
 newspaper published in Shenandoah, Schuykill County, PA.  The paper is
 dated 10/20/1870, and the article is title "The Relic of the Civil
 War."

 Essentially, the article related the tale of the Hunley without
 specifically naming it, but closes with this line:

 "Within a few weeks past divers in submarine armor have visited the
 wreck of the Housatonic, and they have found the little torpedo vessel
 lying by her huge victim and within her are the bones of the crew."
 (Shenandoah Herald, Shenandoah, Schuylkill County, PA, Vol. 1 #22 Oct
 20, 1870; Boyer and Co. Publishers)

 No source is given for the article, but apparently the US Navy DID find
 the Hunley in 1870 and left it there on the bottom.  This might explain
 the grappling hook and rope as devices that were used to locate the
 sunken sub.

Thought you guys might be interested in this.  We are scanning these
 articles for an online project, if you like I will send you a copy of
 the full article once it is digitized. Feel free to contact me if you
 wish, my phone # is 412-, you already have my e-mail, and my
 address is , State College, PA 16801.
Thanks for your time,

> Tom DuSold


"...anything you have to offer will be appreciated by thousands of
 people.   George"
 

Great.  I'll see what I can come up with to corroborate the dive in
1870 and get it to you.  I have one question that might also help me
out some, In the article "Civil War-Era Device May Have Been Used to
Search For Sub or Used as Anchor", the author mentions that "at least
two other anamolies that bear investigating have been found near the
Hunley site."  Any idea what those object might be?  Knowing what they
are could help put the rope and hook into better context with a salvage
theory. 

Thanks.  I look forward to talking with you again very soon.
 

******

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Lamp info/photos


 Hi, just got back from Remembrance Day weekend in Gettysburg.  I got the
 newsletter, reads great.  My photos weren't in there though, nor were the
 x-ray photos of the Hunley's lamp(?).  It was all still informative
though.
 Will they ever release the dimensions of the Hunley's lamp?  If its still
 embedded in sediment, there is a chance that they'll find it had the blue
 glass insert on the sliding lens cover, which would have allowed Lt. Dixon
 to flash the blue signal.  We'll see.  I'm happy to have supplied some
info,
 thanks for the opportunity.  Steve
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The pictures are in the online version-not the text version.  Check it out.
George

http://www.thehunley.com/NEWSLETTER_45_Hunley_Lantern/NEWSLETTER_45-11-14-03/Hunley_lantern.htm
********

I read your response to the writer requesting a blueprint of the Hunley. I too would like a blueprint or detailed sketch--one based on the "real" Hunley, not the old version.
Thanks.
L. Hamner

"Am still working on getting the plans together will let you know later....George"

 

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